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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2009, 11:29:21 PM »

I have 9 standards for my M14 and will have 12-13 or more for my M16 when I get it all done.  Having said that it's not too much.  When you set up your load carrying equipment correctly the mags do not become a hinderance.  Infact, any weight, once used often enough, does not become a serious hinderance.  In my case, I play like I'm practicing for a National Op, where you are not afforded much time to reload magazines and HiCaps are not allowed to be used by anyone except the Support gunner.  Nine mags at a National Op is pretty low.  In Arizona, people carried as many as 16 and one in the gun at all times, had them all loaded and had 4 speed loaders and a bag of BB's ready to go.

Blaming your equipment for lack of mobility is a poor excuse... I wear waaaay more crap than most airsofters ever want to, I find my gear to be less of a hinderance than a boonie and simple chest rig.  Thats because I've played in this set up for a long time, I know how to properly exploit it.

As with everything, you adjust your tactics with what you have with you.  If you feel that two hicaps is enough, then only bring two hicaps... if you want to carry 30, go for it.  Just because you are loaded with mags doesnt mean you cant do everything everyone else is doing Smiley

Of course as a beginner, I don't think that he is planning any National Ops anytime soon. And I said it "can" limit your mobility. I've seen it happen myself but that doesn't mean it happens for everyone. Blaming your equipment for limiting mobility isn't an excuse. It is a reasonable factor to consider depending on your personal preferences. There are some who are comfortable with that many mags and there are plenty who aren't. Experience does play a factor in what loadouts you are comfortable in as well. I obviously wouldn't be as efficient as Whiskey if I had his setup. Carrying nine mags requires the appropriate gear so if you do want to carry that many you are going to need to invest in the appropriate setup. I think for starters buying a second mag will suffice. Don't spend a ton of money upfront because you may end up disliking what you buy when you are finally out on the field. Just come to a game and see how you like it then you will be able to decide for sure.
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« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2009, 06:14:03 PM »

alright, thanks everyone for the input, im looking forward to giving it a shot with you guys, wish there was a game in between now and the op.
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« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2010, 09:22:56 PM »

Li-Poly Battery: Ok so I bought this gun http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_217_50&products_id=30466&osCsid=e052ba0ce01a237e082b00ad62c4abbd and I also bought a 11.1v 1200mah battery and it was 70 bucks plus a smart charger. I didn't know how much would this effect my gun in its ROF and FPS regions.
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2010, 08:21:17 AM »

If you run that battery in that gun, you are going to have a stripped piston and/or catastrophic gearbox failure in under 500 rounds, if it does not just do it the first time you pull the trigger.  You probably want to look at this thread to get started making it safe to run that battery in your gun.
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« Reply #34 on: May 15, 2010, 09:23:33 AM »

Li-Poly Battery: Ok so I bought this gun http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_217_50&products_id=30466&osCsid=e052ba0ce01a237e082b00ad62c4abbd and I also bought a 11.1v 1200mah battery and it was 70 bucks plus a smart charger. I didn't know how much would this effect my gun in its ROF and FPS regions.
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The battery has no effect on the FPS that your gun has. But it does have a drastic effect on the rate of fire, higher voltage = faster shots. This also affects trigger response time as well.

Like German said, you have chosen a very high voltage battery for a stock clone gun. While the quality of craftsmanship has improved significantly in companies like CYMA, DBoys and JG over the last couple years they are in no means “Lipo ready”. Most guns are designed to handle the more common 8.4v battery that comes often in NiCD and NiMH configurations. Most airsofters will oftentimes upgrade to a 9.6v NiMH battery without much worry as it’s only a 1.2v increase or essentially a 14% gain and not terribly abusive to the internals of most stock guns. The 11.1v LiPO that you have ordered is 2.7 volts higher than what most airsoft guns are engineered to work with which is about 32% more power than what you really should be using on a stock gun with no upgrades. Also LiPO battery packs produce a substantial amount of power output that is much more than common NiMH packs. For example; a 7.2v LiPO pack will have similar performance to a 9.6v NiMH pack because of their efficiency and high discharge rate. This directly translates to an 11.1v LiPO providing similar performance of a 12v NiMH battery.

If I were you I would attempt to contact Evike or whoever you ordered the battery from and try and get something a little milder so your new gun doesn’t self-destruct the first time you pull the trigger.  wink
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« Reply #35 on: May 15, 2010, 02:33:28 PM »

But the guns description anouncced its gearbox li-poly ready. I already ordered it though so hopefully it wont  cry
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« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2010, 03:01:05 PM »

You could say that Evike has a reputation for slightly embellishing their product descriptions. Look at it this way, they are saying this gun is “LiPO ready” in the same way if I was selling you a car and said that it’s “Nitro Ready”. What they mean is that this gun can run perfectly fine off a 7.2v LiPO, just as a car that has been excellently maintained can run off the smallest tank of NOS. Is it recommended? Not really. Will things break if you do it often? Most certainly. Throw an 11.1v LiPO in there and you are increasing the recommended battery power by 54%, like the car example if you put a big old can of Nitrous on a stock motor you are sure to blow something up.

I’d say you might be okay if the guns internals are in tip-top shape and they have done an amazing job shimming the gears. But do not get trigger happy, it will surely end in disaster. If you only fire on short bursts and stay away from semi-auto it may work fine. But lay on the trigger for too long and you will shred that piston. Too much semi-auto fire and you will probably fry out the trigger contacts as well. Just take care and try not to abuse it, don’t say we didn’t warn ya either. Wink
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« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2010, 04:10:22 PM »

The gun comes with a small stick battery but even though it says "Gearbox can use Matrix Stick Type Lipoly battery (not included / optional)" it probably i'snt correct? I'm not trying to disagree with you or anything because your the expert. But are you saying that i just wasted 70 bucks on something that I cant use? I looked at it again and now also have another question. What do bushings do? And what size and material would be best?

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« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2010, 10:11:09 AM »

"Gearbox can use Matrix Stick Type Lipoly battery (not included / optional)

might be talking about the 7.4v Lipo battery
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« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2010, 01:02:43 PM »

ahhh ok. Thanks for the help guys.
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« Reply #40 on: May 25, 2010, 06:59:13 PM »

Thank you for this guide! I wrote down a checklist of items to check out on my next trip to Canfields (clothing wise)! I am excited to get out and play a few rounds with yall this summer!
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